bp borderline schizophrenia

[lulu000]

hi all, just wanted to see how borderline everyone else thinks schizophrenia and bp are close together or not! i think they come close and think i'm schizo at times cause i hear voices and see things that might not be there, and think that my b\f is out to hurt me i get so paranoid and rather would be able to stay up all night and wish i could sleep all day! but at mo really i do both, just don't sleep much . i think that what happens if the pdoc got my diagnose wrong and i'm on the wrong meds, anyone else think like this..

[Phyllis]

I dunno.... I have been having psychosis lately. scary. I have only been seeing things and my dreams have been weirder than ususal.

[Ashes]

I think they are really close.  I believe it was explained to me once that schizo is suffering psychosis without being in a mood episode.  Although from my own experience it gets harder and harder to tell if Im in an episode.  It all starts to run together and who really knows.

[lulu000]

yea snap, it's getting harder for me too, and i'm scared out of my wits the most of the time, my b\f challenges me which i don't know if that is a good thing or bad, i'm losing the grip of reality don't really know what is real anymore, doc want's to see me but i',m scared incase they say i need locking up again, don't know what to do i just wish i could disappear cause i'm such a disappointment to my family, better of without me and all this chaos   if i could just get abit of inner relief to much all of the time for me, just feel helpless at mo, but hopefully one day i'll find that road of peace.. thanks for ur posts

[goosemuffin]

I dunno...I think it's uber borderline maybe? hell I am hyper as hell but depressed at the same time and even in my calm moments I still see shadows or catch glimpses of shit in the corner of my eye. I've never told anyone in my life except pdocs about this. When I was younger I would hear 'demons' man now that I think of it, it's scary as hell I had these symptoms in my teens and thought I was possessed or just stupid.

[cadno]

Well we do have schitzo affective disorder which to me (being no expert) looks like bipolar with psychosis.  If that's the case we are all VERY close to that line where it could cross over.  I will say I do know one major difference, my psychosis tends to be voices, seeing things and even smelling things.  I attended a group therepy session for voice hearers and a few there were schitzophrenic.  For them the difference was that they lose sight of reality completely, they can become different people, they believe things that few could even consider.  For example a friend from this group was convinced he was an undercover agent who has to document the behaviour of patients and staff on the ward.  He did this without question and the only reason anyone knew about his activities was because he was told that a nurse was also an agent and had to hand over all the information to her.

I think that's the key difference, yes as bipolars we lose sight of reality, but I don't believe it is anywhere near the loss of reality a schitzophrenic person has to live with.  I could be shot for that, but its just an observation.

Rich

[Phyllis]

reminds me of the time in my life where I thought I was part of the Knights of the Round Table (reincarnated)... Yeah, don't ask. An no, I wasn't 
I believed some really fucked up and strange shit back in the day... way prior to my diagnosis of BP