|
Kensho
|
 |
« on: October 11, 2011, 08:27:39 PM » |
|
today i was banned from a buddhist forum... i'm not quite sure why, the only thing i can think of is i got caught up in a heated argument over veganim/vegetarianism and it's relationship to buddhist practice... surprisingly there were a large number of buddhists participating in this thread who ate meat... they would degrade the vegans/vegetarians with each post they made... i have no problem with anyone eating meat, it's an individual decision but it flies in the face of buddhist precepts... all i did was point out that their behavior was hypocritical to true buddhist nature, that eating meat flew in the face of the buddhist goal to end suffering and that buddha himself taught about the virtues of not harming animals... fucking assholes...  Kensho |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"it is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency..." ~~~ Stanislav Grof MD, PhD a passage from "Spiritual Emergency"
|
|
|
Dreamline
Freak of art.
Global Moderator
Intergalactic Superstar Poster
 Offline
Posts: 1687
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 09:42:57 PM » |
|
I know a little about strict Buddhism and this Hindu guy my friend knows is a vegan and says the same thing. I'm surprised they would ban you for pointing that out, WTF? I'm very much a carnivore but wouldn't degrade anyone who isn't...I mean WTF. Yet I despise factory farming and understand the whole vegan thing about cruelty. Ideally I would only eat meat from a wild animal (or free range domestic) who can live free and happy. I see myself as a predator/hunter like a wolf. But factory farming is sick, it bothers me....our society bothers me as a whole. I hate being born into it, that's for sure. But really, they chastised you for being a vegan and they are Buddhists? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The judges head spins confused.
For order is just a center pivot.
|
|
|
|
Kensho
|
|
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 09:52:24 AM » |
|
But really, they chastised you for being a vegan and they are Buddhists? yeah... weird huh? maybe one of them was an admin or owner of the forum... who knows, in any event i'm not going to let this bother me... Kensho  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"it is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency..." ~~~ Stanislav Grof MD, PhD a passage from "Spiritual Emergency"
|
|
|
|
Paz
|
|
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 09:57:49 AM » |
|
It's just ridiculous when any member of any religion behaves with intolerance towards another.....All of the doctrines in religion pretty much emphasize Love & Acceptance.....  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine. - Che Guevara
|
|
|
|
Kensho
|
|
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 11:52:47 AM » |
|
well while thinking about it for awhile i now recall telling one member i thought they were being an asshole...  still that shouldn't be enough for someone to get banned! some of the things they were saying were just as rude, if not moreso... Kensho |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"it is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency..." ~~~ Stanislav Grof MD, PhD a passage from "Spiritual Emergency"
|
|
|
|
cadno
|
|
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 07:06:51 PM » |
|
What group were they as I know that a lot of Buddhist Groups can and will eat meat without any problems. A friend of mine belongs to a group known as RKK who's base in in Japan (you can check them out if you're interested). So I don't understand the preconvieved notion that all of them must be vegan etc.
Rich
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Kensho
|
|
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2011, 02:13:45 AM » |
|
killing animals = suffering Kensho |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"it is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency..." ~~~ Stanislav Grof MD, PhD a passage from "Spiritual Emergency"
|
|
|
|
cadno
|
|
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2011, 04:42:19 PM » |
|
killing animals = suffering Kensho So all those other groups of Buddhists are wrong? Rich |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
cadno
|
|
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2011, 04:47:40 PM » |
|
Actually going to apologise, that seemed almost bitchy, I'm in a funny place right now, I re-read what you posted and get it now. Gods takes something like this for me notice my mood sometimes. What you are saying is that certain groups view it as harm and that's why they adopt an alternative diet. Where as my 'bitchy' comment was based on me reading it the wrong way, to me I read it 'doesn't matter all Buddhists should be vegan' which I know isn't what you were saying.
Seriously, sorry about that comment, I need a slap, no real excuse, I should check before I post.
Rich
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Kensho
|
|
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2011, 05:37:29 PM » |
|
killing animals = suffering Kensho So all those other groups of Buddhists are wrong? Rich i know that buddha allowed his monks and nuns to eat meat... but he wouldn't allow his host to slaughter an animal on his behalf either... maybe he was trying to avoid a guilt trip... who knows... in any event i still feel killing an animal creates suffering... how hypocritical is that? Kensho |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"it is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency..." ~~~ Stanislav Grof MD, PhD a passage from "Spiritual Emergency"
|
|
|
|
Kensho
|
|
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2011, 05:38:41 PM » |
|
Actually going to apologise, that seemed almost bitchy, I'm in a funny place right now, I re-read what you posted and get it now. Gods takes something like this for me notice my mood sometimes. What you are saying is that certain groups view it as harm and that's why they adopt an alternative diet. Where as my 'bitchy' comment was based on me reading it the wrong way, to me I read it 'doesn't matter all Buddhists should be vegan' which I know isn't what you were saying.
Seriously, sorry about that comment, I need a slap, no real excuse, I should check before I post.
Rich
it's all good! Kensho |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
"it is possible to undergo a profound crisis involving non-ordinary experiences and to perceive it as pathological or psychiatric when in fact it may be more accurately and beneficially defined as a spiritual emergency..." ~~~ Stanislav Grof MD, PhD a passage from "Spiritual Emergency"
|
|
|
|
