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Author Topic: I almost got tackled by orderlies today :)  (Read 198 times)
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« on: January 09, 2012, 11:22:45 PM »

I went to the hospital today, I brought my paper on all my triggers, what conditions I think I have, medication I'd like to try, etc. The doc called the mental hospital in north bay and they said to bring me up there ( they did NOT mention that they could hold me there against my will) So when my mom and I get there, they're telling my mom that she has to leave and Im going to be put in there whether I like it or not despite what me or my mother said.  I managed to get through the first two security doors, and would just have to go down the stairs and through all hall and out the door. I started turning to run but I saw an orderly waiting to catch me. Then a nice woman psychiatrist came and worked everthing out for me, I'm on new meds starting tomorrow, and after talking to my psychiatrist I was supposed to be seeing today, I'm already really diagnosed as bipolar with psychosis, extreme anxiety, OCD, GAD, and SAD. I'm very happy I finally have a diagnosis, even though I'm sort of scared of it.. being this way.

ANyways, it was a hellish night but I guess some good came out of it. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2012, 07:14:47 AM »

Knowing what is wrong is half the battle. And it is just so comforting to finally put a name on what is wrong. Hang in there girlie! We are here for you.  cheer
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 04:10:58 PM »

Thanks Phyllis! Smiley I love the support there is on this site.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 04:50:58 PM »

If you don't mind me asking... Why did they try to have you admitted? I remember you saying that your case worker submitted some wrong information on a report? Did this have something to do with it?

Anyway, it is nice to have a lable(s) and a set of medications that may help.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 05:18:40 PM »

Damn finally they decided!  What kind of meds you get this time?
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2012, 05:49:10 PM »

Because of all the information I wrote down about my tiggers, mood swings, etc. Ironically that saved me too. They said I could be an outpatient because I was 'uncharacteristically aware' of my delusions/psychotic episodes. lol So I definitely suffer from psychosis, OCD, either bipolar, or schizotypal disorder bipolar type, GAD, SAD, and I think that's it. BUt I am so so glad to finally know what's wrong with me. lol I was just wondering.. do you guys mind if I stick around even if it ends up being schizotypal? I know it's a site for bipolar disorder is all and I don't want to intrude..

I'm now on clonazepam, respiridone, and they're trying a higher dose of effexor, if that doesn't work then probably lithium. Lots of pills, for me anyway.  Bug Eyes
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2012, 09:56:25 PM »

What a day! I'm glad you have some real information now. Things seem a little easier to swallow when you know what you are dealing with. As I was reading this I had to laugh a little because I noticed that everyone talked about how nice it is to have a label. It's true it is nice but I work with people who have disabilities and it seems like in that crowd when people talk about labels its a negative thing. Just noticed the difference in perspectives and thought it was interesting.
Hope the new meds work for you and great work advocating for yourself! Not everyone can do that :-)
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2012, 12:13:53 AM »

Because of all the information I wrote down about my tiggers, mood swings, etc. Ironically that saved me too. They said I could be an outpatient because I was 'uncharacteristically aware' of my delusions/psychotic episodes. lol So I definitely suffer from psychosis, OCD, either bipolar, or schizotypal disorder bipolar type, GAD, SAD, and I think that's it. BUt I am so so glad to finally know what's wrong with me. lol I was just wondering.. do you guys mind if I stick around even if it ends up being schizotypal? I know it's a site for bipolar disorder is all and I don't want to intrude..

I'm now on clonazepam, respiridone, and they're trying a higher dose of effexor, if that doesn't work then probably lithium. Lots of pills, for me anyway.  Bug Eyes

i like that term 'uncharacteristically aware'... that's there way of saying, "hmmmm... she's not supposed to be aware of her psychosis/delusions" and technically they're right... or do you believe them but someone could reason with you? bipolar and schizotypal are totally unrelated to one another... bipolar is a mood disorder and schizotypal is a personality disorder...  but i definitely agree that one could have the two together because i did in the early stages... i wonder why they call it schizotypal bipolar type instead of bipolar schizotypal type... hmmmm... it probably has a lot to do withte way it rolls off of the tongue... think about it... say bipolar schizotyal type, 3 times fast... then try schizotypal bipolar type... it really does make much more sense to call it schizotypal bipolar type because they claim the personality condition know as schizotypal personality is part of the schizophrenic spectrum... it's just interesting that a personality issue can degrade into a serious mental illness... if you look at the symptoms of schizotypal they're more loose delusional thinking, paranoia with anxiety, like depersonalization or derealization... do you experience dp/dr? i used to experience both quite often... depending on the nature of the experience, it could be kind of cool or it could turn out to be quite horrific... mine were generally on the horrific side...


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Schizotypal Personality Disorder: DSM-IV-TR 301.22

A pervasive pattern of social and interpersonal deficits marked by acute discomfort with, and reduced capacity for, close relationships as well as by cognitive or perceptual distortions and eccentricities of behavior, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts as indicated by 5 or more:

~~~Ideas of reference (excluding delusions of reference)
~~~Odd beliefs or magical thinking that influences behavior and is inconsistent with subcultural norms (e.g. superstition, belief in clairvoyance, telepathy, "sixth sense", or bizarre fantasies or preoccupations)
~~~Unusual perceptual experiences, including bodily illusions
~~~Odd thinking and speech (e.g. vague, circumstantial, metaphorical, or stereotyped speaking)
~~~Suspiciousness or paranoid ideas
~~~Inappropriate or constricted affect
~~~Behavior or appearance that is odd eccentric or peculiar
~~~Lack of close friends or confidants other than first degree relatives
~~~Excessive social anxiety that does not diminish with familiarity and tends to be associated with paranoid fears rather than negative judgments about self



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Millon's subtypes

Theodore Millon identified two subtypes of schizotypal . Any individual schizotypal may exhibit either one of the following somewhat different subtypes (Note that Millon believes it is rare for a personality with one pure variant, but rather a mixture of one major variant with one or more secondary variants):

~~~insipid schizotypal - a structural exaggeration of the passive-detached pattern. It includes schizoid, depressive, dependent features.

~~~timorous schizotypal - a structural exaggeration of the active-detached pattern. It includes avoidant, negativistic (passive-aggressive) features.


are you insipid or are you timorous? i can honestly say i was a bit of the both at times... it was a very strange feeling...



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Ideas of Reference and Delusions of Reference...

'Ideas of reference must be distinguished from delusions of reference, which may be similar in content but are held with greater conviction'. With the former, but not the latter, the person holding them may have 'the feeling that strangers are talking about him/her, but if challenged, acknowledges that the people may be talking about something else'.

At the same time, there may be 'transitions...to delusions' from ideas of reference: whereas 'abortive ideas of reference, in the beginning of their development or, in Schizotypal personalities, continuously, may remain subject to the patient's criticism...under adverse circumstances, by minimal economic shifts, however, reality testing may be lost and daydreams of this kind turn into delusions'.

It has been noted that the character 'rigidly controlled by his superego...readily forms sensitive ideas of reference. A key experience may occur in his life circumstances and quite suddenly these ideas become structured as delusions of reference'. Within the 'focus of paranoia...that man crossing his legs, that woman wearing that blouse - it can't just be accidental. It has a particular meaning, is intended to convey something'.



Examples of persons with ideas of reference may experience:

~~~Believing that 'somehow everyone on a passing city bus is talking about them, yet they may be able to acknowledge this is unlikely'
~~~A feeling that people on television or radio are talking about or talking directly to them
~~~Believing that headlines or stories in newspapers are written especially for them
~~~Believing that events (even world events) have been deliberately contrived for them, or have special personal significance for them
~~~Seeing objects or events as being set up deliberately to convey a special or particular meaning to themselves
~~~Thinking 'that the slightest careless movement on the part of another person had great personal meaning...increased significance'


it all boils down to whether your delusions seem real, but you're able to rationalize them as being unreasonable thoughts. i was like that at first, that's what was so weird, sometimes i would think to myself why am i thinking like this, but eventually i couldn't separate the event from reality.... who ever is close to you to you should really keep a close eye on you... buy the time i lost touch it was impossible for me to separate it all, even when everyone around me was doing there best to do so... i hope you never become schizoaffective Geister, i spent over 6 years, all by myself... i would not allow even my wife to come into my space... i used to think she was poisoning me and spying on me for the government... all kinds of crazy shit... i'm going to say a prayer to the great spirit Geister, that this shit doesn't go any further... now that you have all of these diagnoses, does it make it any better for you?

K~~~
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2012, 12:25:15 AM »

I don't know why I can tell when I'm being delusional, I just know something isn't right. I still sort of act on the delusion, but I can reign it in enough to say "okay, this probably isn't real, I'm just having a delusion, and I should tell someone." And yeah it sounds a lot better saying like that than the other way, just sounds right. lol  Depersonalization? Like... sometimes I feel disconnected with my body, it will feel like my hands aren't there or like they're someone elses or sometimes my whole body feels that way, or I'll feel like I'm out of my body and in a dream or something, it's sort of frightening. I have almost constant paranoia/delusional thoughts (when I'm not having a major episode.) Things like if someone brings me a drink I'll wonder if they poisoned it, stuff like that. But I know it's silly.  I dress really dark, chokers, spiked belts, etc. And half the time my hair is some weird red or blue or green streaked color on black. lol  I don't like having lots of people around me aside from my boyfriend and immediate family.  And the last one,  the excessive social anxiety one, is a MAJOR factor in my life.

I'm both, just depends on when.. does that make sense? Because if I'm very paranoid I'm avoidant, etc, but then if I'm in a very bad depression I tend to be the other way... it all depends..

So.. are you saying it's going to get worse? Because it's gotten to the point where sometimes I'm having a very hard time thinking it's fake, that it's just my mind. Where as I used to be able to tell right out that it was just a bad episode...

I'm really sorry that happened to you Kensho and I hope you're doing a lot better now. And thank you for the support, I really appreciate it.
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