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Author Topic: Bill Hicks - Plants and Evolution  (Read 213 times)
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« on: January 15, 2012, 11:12:40 AM »

bill hicks rocked... he had a simple way of viewing and talking about about our own condition... this has always been my point from the very first time i tripped on shrooms when i was 14... how is it possible that nature provided a lowly mushroom that could act on a specific receptor in our brains? why is it tree's and plants provide us with the vitamins and minerals our bodies need? how is it that the roughly 80% or whatever the fucking number is drugs made today are anologs of molecules found in nature??? they can't patent this shit but they can try to copy it the best way they can... the problem is even removing 1 single carbon atom makes the compound much less effective and in some cases deadly to one degree or another... yet the one found in nature is not only harmless but kick ass effective...

i personally see some real beauty in all of this.... there is more to our own evolution then meets the eye... there maybe mistakes nature makes sometimes in the form of genetic defects in children but overall it is pure poetry in my book... you want to call it a personal god??? that's cool but i'm talking cosmic intervention here... everything we have ever needed to be healthy and very happy has been here at our fingertips all if this time and the powers that control all of this knew it all this time... their behavior is preventing our further evolution as far as i'm concerned...

am i fucking weird? i don't think so and U know why? because my dad and i had a long talk when we visited them down the shore this past week, last weekend as a matter of fact... and we were discussing everything regarding my development up until this point...this was the most intense conversation i had with him in my entire life... and the topic of psychedelics came up because i wanted them to come up... and when i explained my experiences he could easily see i had a better connection to my own spiritual side then he ever had as a christian... he said everything short of saying just that... i actually broke down in tears describing my experience and i honestly believe it was that alone which is what made it real for him..... who knows really... maybe one day he'll develop an deep enough interest and overcome his hangups ask me to grow some... i would love the idea to trip with my father after spending a long stretch of time being disconnected from him... anyways, watch bill say it in plain language, maybe he'll be able to explain it better then i can...


Bill Hicks - Plants and Evolution
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/W530qem-C2g&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/W530qem-C2g&rel=1</a>




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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 02:24:54 PM »

From the lowest one celled creature up through the patterns of evolutions and into our human brains we are made of the same thing (energy) that is arranged into related patterns with a design bigger than each of our species, woven like Celtic knotts. Grin (I haven't watched the video yet)
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 02:35:51 PM »

You know how people talk about aliens (and I 'm not discrediting that) and that the quantum leap was achieved either through adding alien DNA or by teaching them stuff.  OK...what if the teaching was with shrooms....or if no aliens involved, then maybe it was by chance at first.  After they are tripping then the aliens came, because they could then relate.  Or maybe the shrooms/plants did it all...then the downfall is with people trying to control other instead of everyone controlling themselves...and here we are 2012...the planets are going to line up.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 02:41:48 PM »

so with you there dude.... shine on bill hicks
keep on yellin heal the world one of these days i hope everyone can be that groovy
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 05:06:17 PM »

well you know DreamLine...the idea of some sort of direct influence on our genome isn't outside the realm of possibilities really... look at ancient cultures in south america alone... being advanced in astronomy and mathematics... being the culture that came up with the concept of zero... the way they built structures that aligned with celestial events.. and many of these cultures including the Egyptians clearly hint of encounters in their in their art/sculptures and drawings...

going back to the south american cultures... they use an hallucinogen called ayahausca, which is a blend between two plants.. on of them is a vine that has to be chopped into small pieces and boiled in water to extract the active found within the vine itself... all accounts that i've read and let me tell you i've read tons on it to the point i hope to try it one day, all state they come into the presence of aliens or some other beings... they all describe he same exact experience... there is a group right close to me right in manhatten that has ceremonies all of the time... I'd like to reach out to them one day... i understand there is some sort of screening process to go through which is understandable...

but here is my point.... how did these cultures know how to first select a plant that contained the dmt out of the thousands of plants present, know they had to extract through water boiling, know it had to be used with another plant to work and everyone who uses it comes into the presence of these creatures.... creatures by the way who nurture them... look it up DreamLine... you'll find tons of the same exact experience shared by everyone only described in their own words...

i've already said this already, well maybe not here but i have a hard time understanding how others feel it's impossible for even just one civilization to exist outside of our own considering there close to 200 BILLION galaxies out there... i know what i experienced when i was 13 and even though people around me always got into it when i would share i always felt this feeling of disbelief... my own family asked me just this past weekend if i thought it was possible that that was an hallucination... and all i can say is i've never had a visual experience after that episode even during my period of psychosis, which started when i was 33... from 13 to 33? 20 years and only one visual disturbance and i led a very productive life up until 33... sure i fucked up in school but i always tested high and did well in advanced school... i was well adjusted and when i finally had my break i have had no other visual hallucination till today at 41... this is a dilemma i'm facing in putting together my book... do i include this? because at that point in time i was hearing two voices outside of my head and after this event they became internally integrated and instead of having only one ally, both began to look out for me... this shit freaks my wife and family out to no end... my current short list of friends handle it much better... maybe i was hallucinating, but because this is in my database i can't dismiss it... i've already written about this and have it down... the entire experience is laid out in roughly 4 1/2 pages and i could have easily expressed it in a way that took up half of the book... this experience made me deeply question my being all there is in the universe and it was clear to me that i may not be the only "creature" made in the image of god...

consider this DreamLine... say a culture reached the stage of evolution of early man just 25,000 years ahead of us... 25,000 years is absolutely squat!!! in the big picture... where would man be along in his/hers own evolution had we not trashed the nest we live in... no body hair whatsoever? being able to survive off of only eating three plants? growing smaller over time... communicating telepathically... i can go on and on here... maybe it was mental illness because during this episode i experienced what i later learned through a deeper, much more common sense of an intense period of depersonalization/derealization... who knows really... only the great spirit... and i'm going to share something with you right now, unless i've already mentioned this before, but during the peak of my mental malfunction i was hearing a total of 5 voices and now that i'm out of the clouds so to speak, i hear just one... and she is the last voice that showed up and out of the 5 she is the only one that has ever had a name... and this is what gives my psychiatrist ammo and continues to concern my wife because i never shared my experience with cheryl when we first met and even after we were married because i learned as i got older sharing this shit didn't fly too well with others most times, so i kept it from her. and i would have continued to keep it from her but i decided to try and write a book so one afternoon i just came out and told her and as well as i'm doing this concerns the shit out of her even after i pointed out to her i had these experiences all my life and accepted them as a normal thing thinking others experienced this too.. you see, i grew up in a very strict christian household and when i tried to tell my mom about my first experiences, because it had extremely spiritual under and overtones she blew it off as imagination and holiness.. in retrospect i thank the great spirit because i may have been medicated from that point on had she seen a problem in it... would i have been voiceless from that point on and never had the encounter? i'm not sure to be honest but i can tell you with certainty that all of the meds i've been on had never stopped the audio hallucinations or fifth voice now that i've been off the meds going on well over ten months or so by guesstimate... am i schizophrenic DreamLine?  Huh? i just don't know but i'm certainly not schizoaffective because i no longer have a mood component... and it's funny before i go further, if i had to make a diagnosis of myself growing up based on the DSM i'd have to say i was bipolar with psychosis, only my ups weren't obscene and my lows were blah and very short in duration, never deep... but yeah, that's the way i see it and it explains why i was unfocused yet extremely capable.. fuck i've touched base on so much shit i was planning on putting in the book... i hope this doesn't fuck it up... maybe after you all read this pazz can edit it for me.. if she's willing i'll give her something to replace it with, because i was pretty much told not to discuss this shit but i wanted to share it with you.

look into ayahausca DreamLinea and ask yourself why do these people experience the same vision... is it just some freak thing about the plant itself? does it possess some deep message that acts on our receptors this way? or does it reveal an ancient memory we've been tricked into forgetting by the same people who try to patent molecules they recognize exist but try their best to duplicate in order to capitalize... we were left here to deal with them DreamLine... because fifth voice revealed this to me... that this is all about the spirit trying it's best to purify itself through our own existence... i hope i haven't laid too much shit out there and i really hope that pazzz will pull this down for me, i just wanted some of you to know what my head space is like right now... am i schizophrenic now?  Roll Eyes



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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 10:49:53 PM »

I don't think Paz minds psychedelic talk Wink 

I sent you a PM (I dunno what she told you not to do) so that's what I did.  I also looked up the ayahausca.  Its natural DMT Grin  Yes each chemical/plant has its own message for us.  Ayahausca participants DO experience the same vision.  They are very connected as a group.  You know what they say...if your world is a dot...you're world on LSD is a circle....but your world on DMT is a sphere!  Just as LSD is a left-brained trip and shrooms are a right-brained trip.  I just find that fascinating.


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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 08:12:17 AM »

caught the last part a show on the natural geographic channel last night that was on ayahausca. one of the people they showed had a bad experience physically but said she felt 100% better after she came off of her trip.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 11:07:23 AM »

Yeah like Peyote, it can cause purging but they are purging more than their gut. Smiley
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