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« on: May 09, 2008, 05:58:28 PM » |
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i was wondering if anyone has tried just treating symptoms. like treating mania with seroquel and then backing back on it when the mania is gone. i understand from my pdoc that treating bp depression is difficult. he took me off welbrutrin after many years and as far as depression good or bad it seems to have no effect. i'm thinking of dxing the lexapro as it's not covered under my insurance. i'm curious how many of you don't take anti depressants or what your experiences are. and if anyone's tried just treating the symptom occurrences.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2008, 08:03:25 PM » |
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I don't know if this helps, but when I have extreeme irritability or I feel like I am going to go hypomanic - I take an extra abilify or seroquel. If I feel a depression setting in - I take an extra lamictal. I am permitted to do this from my doc, she gave me uber amounts of samples so I wouldn't run out of anything with exception of the seroquel. So in a way, I kind of treat my symptoms when they arise, but I still take my normal cockatail of meds.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2008, 08:24:32 PM » |
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thank you for replying phyllis it helps a lot. i've been thinking about doing this. i don't take lamictal and am not sure i've tried it. i know i broke out in a rash with something and it could have been this but if not i think i may try this. anyway what you say makes sense. i know you are currently on welbutrin do you take any other antidepressant?
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2008, 10:36:47 PM » |
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K...I am constantly taking myself on and off of stuff. I don't know what's doing what anymore. I take the seroquel when I've been up so many nights that I'm becoming psychotic, otherwise the seroquel will make me sleep constantly. I think I'm at my max of Lamictal 400mg, but I don't think it really helps me. I was taking a huge amount of Lithium, but I had so much swelling and then this horrible acne, so I've slowly backed off of it and have been completely off of it for a week. My depression seems to have lifted some. My pdoc tried to tell me during the time that I was depressed that Lamictal and Lithium both should help my depression b/c they are antidepressants. Bullshit. She wants me to continue this med combination, but I quit!!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2008, 10:53:27 PM » |
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high, they are used for mood stabilizers but neither are actually anti depressants. i can't believe she said that. so lithium causes acne???
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2008, 10:58:19 PM » |
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unbelievable acne...and I did flat out tell her that she was full of shit, that I had researched them enough to know better...they think we are stupid...seems like if they really knew about us (BP people I mean) then they would know that most of us are very far from stupid. I'm not a doc, but I know she isn't doing me any good.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2008, 06:40:56 AM » |
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I do not get acne from lithium, and I don't take an antidepressant either....I am a maniac, and all the meds I take are to stabilize my mood & keep me calm. At the beginning they gave me Celexa, and turned me into a raving manaical lunatic. So, antidepressants are not a part of my regimen.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2008, 07:16:41 AM » |
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thank you for replying phyllis it helps a lot. i've been thinking about doing this. i don't take lamictal and am not sure i've tried it. i know i broke out in a rash with something and it could have been this but if not i think i may try this. anyway what you say makes sense. i know you are currently on welbutrin do you take any other antidepressant?
Sounds like you have tried lamictal - one of the side affects of it is a rash. Once you get that rash they take you right off of it. And no, I don't take anyo ther antidepressants. Just the one. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2008, 05:25:55 PM » |
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I tried "treating symptoms" and it didn't work at all> would start taking haldol when I noticed I was becoming manic and not taking it when normal. Didn't work--have to take it all the time.
Don't do antidepressants--seldom depressed and they throw me i nto mania.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2008, 07:29:50 PM » |
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thank you for everyone's imput i appreciated it. k
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 01:22:16 AM » |
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It didn't do you a damn bit of good did it K ? That's the problem is that noone really has the answers. It's good to have someone to talk to about it all thoughxxxhigh
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2008, 06:13:19 PM » |
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what the hell good does it do to take 2 antidepressants? seems like it would make the average bp person more likely to wanna commit suicide. for that the pdoc knows nothing.
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 04:31:01 PM » |
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actually high this time it did do a lot of good. it gave me good info to think about. i was happy to know that phyllis changes her doses a little depending on her mood with her pdocs approval. and now i'm very interested in taking lithium and also now i see that it would probably be difficult if not impossible to try to just treat my symptoms. also i'm finding i probably shouldn't have been on antidepressants because they never stopped my depressions and they probably added to my maniciness. but like you said even if it hadn't have helped i always appreciate hearing back from others and that ALWAYS helps a little.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 05:34:43 PM » |
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Doesn't this just make us all wonder why the docs are here? I am in the same boat as all of you. If I take the shit they give me, I'm almost camoatose. If I don't, I feel wonderful, it's just everyone else around here suffers b/c the angry bitch side of me turns loose. I just can't take that Lithium. It makes me feel like I'm an old woman, no energy, swollen feet, weight gain...This one is funny thought (well, kind of anyway). As you know, I take 50mg of Seroquel when I choose to sleep which knocks me out for days....Get this- I was trying to overdose on Valium, Lamictal, and Seroquel the other night. I took 1000mg of Seroquel and I don't know how much of the other stuff, but I only felt drunk, then passed out for 4 hours. When I woke up, I felt just as chipper as could be. Maybe that's the combo I need..LOL
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